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go to amazon.com.ukau.U.K. slash prime. Welcome to the Codenubi podcast, where we talk to people on their coding journey in the

hopes of helping you on yours. I'm your host, Saron, and before we kick off the show, I want to

tell you about our incredible sponsors. Today on the show, I'm so excited to have author of

Making Embedded Systems from O'Reilly, Elle White.

Elle, you want to say hi?

Hi, Saran.

Thank you so much for having me.

Thanks for being on the show.

I'm so excited to have you on because we recently had your friend, Chris Vec, on the show, to talk about embedded systems.

And I was really excited about that show because we generally don't do technical topics. We do more personal

stories and journey and, you know, more human-oriented conversations. And for that interview,

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