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I am unashamed. What about you?

Welcome back to the Unashamed podcast.

We mentioned on the last podcast that Zach is in town, which is unusual.

And we have a guest today.

And this guest is such a big guest for the Unashamed podcast that Zach could not leave his transport to just some underling,

some person at Tread Lively. He had to personally go and bring our guests. Zach, we're proud

of you for doing that. And although we did throw you under the bus a little on the last podcast. I heard.

I heard when I walked out. Yeah. We did because we had Gary Glenn here.

He's one of your good friends. Yeah. And he's like, well, he didn't offer to come pick me up at my house this morning because he was. Well, I don't. That's true. He didn't get. Zach, you know what my lie was? Well, Gary Glenn, you're no David Green. You know David Green. So David Green is with us today.

He is the

CEO of Hobby Lobby, along with many other things. Also, Mardell bookstores, which our family

has done so many books. We've been a big part of that as well. But David, welcome to Unashamed

Nation. We're a thrill to have you today. Thank you. We're honored to be here.

Thank you.

So David's written a book, which we're going to talk about later, and I'm holding it here for you to see, for those of you that are watching.

It's called the legacy life, leading your family to make a difference for eternity.

And certainly that is something that the Green family is known for.

There's so many things we want to get into today. But one of the things, David, I want to ask,

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