Hello and welcome to Happier, a podcast that gives you ideas about how to be happier.

This week we'll talk about why you should do 10 jumping jacks right now, unless you're

driving, and talk about why life is like high school.

I'm Gretchen Reuben, a writer whose studies, happiness, good habits, and human nature.

I'm in New York City, and with me is my sister Elizabeth Kraft, whom I will see in person

very soon.

That's me, Elizabeth Kraft, a TV writer and producer living in LA.

And yes, Gretchen, the time is coming close.

When we will be together in LA, you'll be able to see the much discussed renovation of

our house, where it is now, because you're going to be here for your book tour.

It's just 19 days until the four tendencies hits the shelves.

Very exciting.

Yes, I cannot wait to sit in your new hot tub with you and to celebrate.

It's going to be so much fun to be together.

Now back in episode 129, we talked about a listener question from someone who was thinking

about changing careers, but she was worried about what they would think.

Another listener made a really, really good point.

She was surprised that we hadn't mentioned the possibility of this listener starting a

side hustle, because of course, in the onward project, which is the family podcast that

I created, there's this excellent podcast hosted by Chris Gilebo, Side Hustle School,

which is all about starting a side hustle.

And starting a side hustle is a great way to experiment and to try out some new opportunity

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