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Emergency Medicine Cases

Ep 130 Community Acquired Pneumonia: Emergency Management

Emergency Medicine Cases

Dr. Anton Helman

Education, Health & Fitness, Courses, Medicine, Science

4.7602 Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2019

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

While community acquired pneumonia (CAP) is 'bread and butter' emergency medicine, and the diagnosis is often a 'slam dunk', it turns out that up one third of the time, we are wrong about the diagnosis; that x-rays are not perfect; that blood work is seldom helpful; that not all antibiotics are created equal and that deciding who can go home and who needs to go to the ICU isn’t always so clear cut. With this in mind we are taking a deep dive into CAP, from diagnosis to disposition so that we can better achieve our EM goals of stabilizing sick patients, getting the right diagnosis, initiating the best treatment with the information at hand, prognosticating/appropriately deciding on disposition of patients, and being healthcare and antimicrobial stewards...

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0:00.0

For the longest time, I was completely unable to separate the idea of what used to be called walking pneumonia

0:07.0

with a vision of Christopher Walken with a cough and fever.

0:11.0

But as potent as that visual is, as I begin to practice, it was replaced by the legion of patients who suffer from what we have now termed,

0:19.0

and I would venture to say more appropriately termed,

0:22.7

community acquired pneumonia. Cap checks all the key boxes for the emergency physician. It's common.

0:30.5

Pneumonia is actually the third leading reason for hospital admission. It can be deadly,

0:34.9

the leading cause of sepsis and death from infection, and we can do something

0:38.7

about it. That combination of characteristics means we should be very, very interested in getting

0:44.2

this one right, which begs the question, do we get it right? Today we'll be figuring out how

0:50.5

something seemingly so simple as pneumonia could be so troublesome to perfect.

0:55.9

Are you on team overtreat or team underdiagnose?

0:59.9

Who's ready for a good old-fashioned EM cases humbling?

1:04.4

So the role of the emergency physician, as always, is really fivefold when it comes to cap.

1:10.1

One, to stabilize sick patients. Two, to get comes to cap. 1. To stabilize sick patients.

1:12.8

2. To get the right diagnosis.

1:15.3

Rule in the right diagnosis, but also rule out other life for limb-threatening diagnoses.

1:20.2

Number three, to initiate the correct best treatment with the information at hand.

1:25.1

Number four, to prognosticate and appropriately decide on disposition of patients.

1:30.0

And number five, to be healthcare and antimicrobial stewards.

1:34.7

So, with these roles in mind, it's my pleasure and honor to introduce my colleague

1:39.1

at North York General Hospital, a guy who definitely is in my top five best EM clinicians I've ever seen.

1:46.1

His clinical acumen really is mind-blowing.

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