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Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1274 | Why Would a Good God Allow This Much Suffering?

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Tread Lively

Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.924.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

The guys confess their most egregious romance fails from forgotten birthdays, last-minute Valentine’s plans, and bookstore traditions gone stale to wildly different philosophies on “setting the bar” in marriage. Al uses the pain of romance to highlight another truth: there’s pain that hurts, and pain that alters. That distinction becomes personal as Zach opens up about his mother’s long battle with early-onset dementia and the complicated grief that followed her passing. The conversation turns to one of Christianity’s hardest realities: if God is good and all-powerful, why does so much suffering continue in the world?  In this episode: Ecclesiastes 3, verse 11; Psalm 90, verse 12; Hebrews 12, verse 2; Colossians 2, verses 20–23; Romans 1, verses 24–25; Romans 8, verses 20–23; 1 John 2, verses 15–16; 1 John 4, verses 8–10 Today’s conversation is about Lesson 6 of C.S. Lewis on Christianity taught by visiting Hillsdale professor Michael Ward. Take the course with us at no cost to you! Sign up at http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/. More about C.S. Lewis on Christianity: Encounter the faith & wisdom of C.S. Lewis C.S. Lewis’s writings bring the great questions of the Christian faith to life. Through his imaginative and invigorating style, Lewis answers these questions in ways that are compelling to those outside Christianity and energizing to those within the Christian faith. In this free, seven-lecture course, Professor Michael Ward—a leading scholar of C.S. Lewis—will explore Lewis’s: argument for objective moral value in response to the rise of modern subjectivism; bittersweet path to conversion and the role of enjoyment in the Christian life; advice regarding the proper way to pray and read the Bible; teachings concerning the purpose of pain and how to confront suffering and loss; insights about the nature of heaven and hell. This course examines these fundamental topics not only through his classic works—including Mere Christianity, The Screwtape Letters, and The Abolition of Man—but also through Lewis’s personal experiences with doubt, conversion, suffering, grief, and joy. Through this course, students will discover Lewis’s core lessons regarding the truth and goodness of the Christian faith and how to apply those lessons to one’s life.  Join us today in discovering C.S. Lewis’s enduring lessons about the meaning and practice of Christianity. Sign up at ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 00:00 Valentine’s Day Fails & Romantic Confessions 05:10 The Problem of Pain Explained 11:45 Is God All-Powerful & All-Loving? 18:20 Free Will, Satan & the Origin of Evil 26:30 Jesus’ Suffering Before the Resurrection 33:40 Personal Loss: Dementia, Grief & Faith 42:10 “Pain Is God’s Megaphone” 48:30 A Grief Observed & Wrestling With God 55:00 God Is Love & the Reality of Eternity — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I am unashamed. What about you? Well, welcome back to the Unashamed podcast. It's Friday. We're doing our

0:10.6

Unashamed with Hillsdale. It's a free course. We're doing the CS Lewis course right now. You guys can

0:17.5

join up for free at Unashamed for Hillsdale.com. We just got out of Valentine's Day. Do you guys can join up for free at undershame for hillstale.com we just got out of valentines day

0:23.6

do you guys have traditions i mean what do y'all do are y'all like the romantic types or what

0:28.6

i don't i'd love to hear kind of where how you guys operate during this season of love i think

0:34.1

i first want to hear from you zach are you uh what's your thoughts on val Valentine's Day? I think I'm a hopeless romantic, but Jill would probably say no that I'm not really good at the remembering special occasions. Alan, you know, that's like a fan. That's a curse of the family. That's not necessarily my fire. But that may be some kind of genetics i don't know what

0:54.3

you well yeah i mean my wing for sure very little is done but i i'm very different from

1:01.7

everybody else in my wings so i've always been the weird one so i've always made a big deal about

1:06.9

in fact when uh when my girls were little um I would always do a big thing, not just for

1:13.1

Lisa, but for her and the girls. And so it was like, you know, in that sense, they were my

1:18.5

sweethearts, you know, so I would always, like, get decorations. I would cook or, like, go pick up

1:24.4

food and stuff like that. And I would just make a big deal about not just serving

1:28.3

lisa but the girl so my girls always remember that which i told both their husbands i was like you know

1:33.3

i've set the bar high so we'll see of course you know jay stone um you know he's not going for the bar

1:40.9

you know but lucky for him nan doesn't really care about it anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he probably doesn't, it's no big deal. He probably didn't know when Valentine's Day is. Right, exactly. He probably doesn't know. If you don't know, I mean, oh, well, Jay's told me early on to set the bar low when you first get married and he said, if you set it really low, you set the expectations really low, and anything above the bottom is advancement. And so I went with that. And it did work out well. That's not a good tactic. No, that's terrible. That's terrible advice. Awful advice. And Jayst, I talked about dad giving him bad advice, but he's the worst as well.

2:17.7

I was bad. Well, when we first got married, Jill and I, it wasn't the first Valentine's Day, but her first birthday, which is in February, I'd forgot to do anything or plan anything for her birthday.

2:32.4

Your first year was there, you forgot her birthday. Oh, wow. Is that not bad? And so it was the day of... No card. Like, I mean, nothing. Like, no happy birthday. And I mean, nothing. Just totally forgot. And I get to work. And my sister calls me. I was like, are you doing anything for Jill's birthday tonight? I mean, you haven't taught us and I was like, oh my gosh.

3:09.6

I, calls me. It was like, are you doing anything for Jill's birthday tonight? I mean, you haven't taught us? And I was like, oh my gosh. It just hit. And it was like that moment, like, you know, that dream you have where you, where you, like, you forget to show up for finals or whatever. It was like, that kind of anxiety just like overcame me. And I was like, I have not planned anything so um we still just just still talks about this story to this day so what I did was in a panic

3:14.3

stopped a log green no I caught every one of my friends and I was like guys

3:18.6

tonight prompted impromptued birthday party at the Olive Garden and And so I reserved a table for like 15 people.

3:27.8

We get there, but because it was so last minute, like nobody shows up.

3:33.1

And it's like literally me and Jill sitting at a table all along.

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