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Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Ep 1268 | MercyMe Singer Bart Millard’s Battle with Abuse, Diabetes & Deep Depression

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Tread Lively

Religion, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.924.7K Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Jase, Al, and Zach welcome MercyMe frontman Bart Millard for a raw discussion about childhood abuse, inherited trauma, depression, and the weight of fatherhood. Jase relates a surprising connection between Bart and his oldest son, Reed, early in Reed’s music career. The guys reflect on the grief and pride that comes from watching your children rise up stronger through the very pain that once nearly broke you. In this episode: Daniel 3, verses 16–18; Revelation 12, verse 11; 1 John 2, verses 12–17 Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://open.spotify.com/show/3LY8eJ4ZBZHmsImGoDNK2l Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 0:00 Jase’s Surprise MercyMe Connection 3:45 “I Can Only Imagine 2” & Movie Accuracy 13:40 Father Wounds & Breaking the Cycle 20:15 Apologizing to Our Kids Is Hard 26:00 Bart’s Depression & 370-Pound Wake-Up Call 32:10 Raising a Child with Type 1 Diabetes 39:00 Daniel 3 & the “Even If” Faith 44:30 Billy Graham’s Prayer Over Sam 48:20 Grief, Gratitude & God’s Bigger Plan — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I am unashamed. What about you?

0:06.1

So welcome back to Unashamed. We're super excited today. We've got a guest coming on.

0:13.8

Jase, that you probably are the only one that knows it. I don't really know. I mean, I know of him, but I don't know it.

0:19.7

Well, a series of events happen

0:22.4

now. And we met this guy years ago. And it's quite quite the story that I'll tell. But I'm

0:31.1

excited about it. And the project that he's involved with, you're going to be excited about.

0:37.9

All right.

0:38.4

So without further ado, let's bring on our guest.

0:41.5

It looks like he's floating out in the nether regions of the world.

0:46.1

Bart Millard, welcome to the Unashamed Podcast.

0:49.9

Thanks for having me.

0:51.3

Finally, I've been watching for a while.

0:53.5

So I was pretty excited when this came through.

0:55.9

I'm in an undisclosed location.

0:58.3

It looks like you're in the witness protection program, Bart.

1:01.3

What are you running from, Bart?

1:03.1

Send help.

1:06.2

For those of you that don't know Bart, I guess three people may be an unashamed nation.

1:10.5

Of course, he's the front man for Mercy and me. And we've been loving your music for a long, long time, you guys in the band. And now you have a new book and a new movie out on the same month, which is pretty impressive. Yeah, it's like somebody smarter than me timed all this stuff. But yeah, we've got the movie coming out.

1:29.5

I can only imagine too.

1:30.4

And the book, which is called Even If, which to make things even confusing, that's what the movie is about.

1:35.6

It's a story around the song Even If.

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