a folks ranting inberg here with another episode of loop holds hunt talk radio this time I'm down in beautiful southern Arizona

uh have a guest who's been on a few podcasts talking about migration initiatives talking about

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coos deer versus cows deer

and today while we were out hunting I said Jim

you know I've always had these questions and you're always so polite to answer I'm related to

just the general species of deer their evolution is how they're related not related what features and

concerns and you know which ones are winners and losers in the changing dynamics the landscape

and he was answering some of my questions today and I said Jim a still podcast he said all right

so with me is Jim hefefel finger um like I said you've heard him in the past he's uh i don't know

28 years into his career as the science coordinator for all things uh at uh Arizona game and fish

he's a just a well-written person if you read publications in the wildlife society publications in

boon and crock at fair chase uh position papers uh heads the meal deer working group

I don't know when the gas leaps but anyhow he's here with me today and I'm very grateful for that

and we're going to talk about all things deer meal deer white tail deer black tail deer um

and I'm going to throw some of these questions out there that I've always found to be curious

related to our most beloved big game species the deer but before we do that I want to thank

lupold for being the title sponsor this podcast being a great supporter of all that we do public

lands access conservation they do it quietly but they do it in a big way uh go to lupold.com

look at their optics and hopefully you'll find something there that that you find is uh is

interesting also we have on x maps uh we and uh how to explain you all hear hear me talk about it

and you see me using it and all I can just say is go out there check it out for yourself go to

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