Ep 1259 | Why the Robertsons Reject the Idea That Pro-Life Is Just an Opinion

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Religion, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 24.7K Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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The Robertsons dig into why truth doesn’t always play well in modern culture, and why Jesus wouldn’t be popular in a TikTok world built on virality and approval. The guys talk through everything from their long-running distrust of dentists to why being pro-life isn’t a matter of personal preference or opinion. They reflect on how stories like The Chronicles of Narnia communicate hard truths better than arguments ever could and why true change is often so uncomfortable. Today’s conversation is about Lesson 2 of C.S. Lewis on Christianity taught by visiting Hillsdale professor Michael Ward. Take the course with us at no cost to you! Sign up at http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/. More about C.S. Lewis on Christianity: Encounter the faith & wisdom of C.S. Lewis C.S. Lewis’s writings bring the great questions of the Christian faith to life. Through his imaginative and invigorating style, Lewis answers these questions in ways that are compelling to those outside Christianity and energizing to those within the Christian faith. In this free, seven-lecture course, Professor Michael Ward—a leading scholar of C.S. Lewis—will explore Lewis’s: argument for objective moral value in response to the rise of modern subjectivism; bittersweet path to conversion and the role of enjoyment in the Christian life; advice regarding the proper way to pray and read the Bible; teachings concerning the purpose of pain and how to confront suffering and loss; insights about the nature of heaven and hell. This course examines these fundamental topics not only through his classic works—including Mere Christianity, The Screwtape Letters, and The Abolition of Man—but also through Lewis’s personal experiences with doubt, conversion, suffering, grief, and joy. Through this course, students will discover Lewis’s core lessons regarding the truth and goodness of the Christian faith and how to apply those lessons to one’s life. Join us today in discovering C.S. Lewis’s enduring lessons about the meaning and practice of Christianity. Sign up at ⁠http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 0:00 – All good conversations need caffeine 4:05 – Why studying C.S. Lewis still matters today 8:25 – “I can’t believe anything unless it makes sense” 13:10 – Objective truth vs. subjective feelings 18:20 – The problem of evil & why moral outrage points to God 23:55 – How suffering backed C.S. Lewis into Christianity 29:10 – Tolkien, Dyson, & relaxing into the Christian story 34:40 – Faith as participation, not just belief 40:05 – Why C.S. Lewis wouldn’t be popular in today’s culture 45:30 – Christianity isn’t safe but it is good — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I am unashamed. What about you?
0:06.4	Welcome back to the Unashamed podcast. We are in our second CS Lewis episode. We've upgraded with some coffee from John Luke who took a rather long break to go fix one cup of coffee.
0:21.1	I'm the one on the time constraint, and then I asked John Luke to make me some coffee,
0:25.7	because it's nice having, like, a coffee guru amongst our people, you know?
0:31.7	That is true.
0:32.6	Because I love good coffee, and we're doing this in the afternoon because our schedules
0:36.9	are so crazy. And so
0:38.6	I have to have it, especially talking about the objectivity of reason and all that.
0:44.6	Why do you have a heart out today? I got to get my teeth clean. After you're drinking black
0:49.5	coffee. I brought a thing of floss because I get so nervous about going in to have someone work on your mouth, you know, right after you've had coffee or whatever. Yeah, black coffee before a dentist appointment, it's a bold move. Well, I tell you what. That's no better time. Get it cleaned up. Get them bleached outside. That's true. That's true. That's true. That has new teeth, true. He made his debut on the podcast. So that is that kind of push you to like make sure you. I mean, I'm just getting mine clean, Zach. Is that like I'm pulling them all out of my head? It's not quite that dramatic. What got me about Sai was that he waited till 77 years old. But then I finally found out why. and I don't know if I should, if I can say this, but I'm going to, I guess. I was like, cut it, Matt, if it's not right. But I said, well, Sa, why did you do this? Wait till 77. He said, hey, because it's free. So the guy apparently traded side the work for whatever he's doing for him so well that's worth
1:46.4	hey well it was worth it because they look he has all his teeth man oh he's amazing yeah i've never
1:51.5	seen him look that good he looks great yeah well this is unashamed for hillsdale you guys can
1:56.4	check it out at unashamed for hillsdale dot com you can take the course with us we're or going through
2:00.5	the work of
2:00.9	c s lewis which is it's super exciting um my brother's a dentist by the way al so if you lived up here
2:06.5	you might get a discount i don't want your brother anywhere near my teeth i'm just going to tell you
2:11.2	right now he's got i love him to death but yeah this man he might just implant something in there
2:17.3	that later he could you
2:18.6	know make me suffer i don't know grant's got a sadistic personality at times so i don't want him anywhere
2:24.9	near my team you're starting to sound like an anti dentite yeah i'm an anti-grantite i'll tell you if he's
2:31.3	the dentist one of the best Seinfeld episodes.
2:34.4	Antite, Dentide, and what does he say? Next thing, you know, you're going to say they should have their own school. He's like, they do! Here you go! You're anti-Dentite. Thank you for bringing up Seinfeld because the young people don't appreciate Seinfeld anymore because, you know, it's not,
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