meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Young Heretics

Ep. 124: World in the Mind

Young Heretics

Spencer Klavan

Society & Culture, Education

4.94.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2022

⏱️ 66 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Owen Barfield's "Poetic Diction" is a book about etymology that turns out to shed light on much more than language. In this episode of Young Heretics, Spencer Klavan describes his own life-changing experience discovering the book and explores how Barfield's vision of human perception can help unlock the mysteries of life, the universe, and everything. From scripture to science, the first and last Inkling has much to say to our modern predicament.

--

Rocket Money is the new app that helps you identify and stop paying for subscriptions you don't need, want, or simply forgot about. Save thousands of dollars a year: https://rocketmoney.com/heretics.

--

You'll have more energy and feel healthier when you take Field of Greens. Get 15% off your first order and another 10% off when you subscribe for recurring orders. Use promo code HERETICS at https://fieldofgreens.com.

--

Public Goods is the one stop shop for sustainable, high quality everyday essentials made from clean ingredients. Receive $15 off your first Public Goods order at https://publicgoods.com/HERETICS.

--

Indeed is the hiring partner where you can attract, interview, and hire all in one place. Get a $75 sponsored job credit to upgrade your job post at https://Indeed.com/HERETICS.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Light in the world, world in the mind, mind in the heart, heart in the night.

0:10.0

Pain in the day, strength in the pain, light in the strength, world in the light.

0:19.0

That is a poem by Owen Barfield.

0:26.0

It's one of his later poems.

0:29.0

It came out in 1971.

0:32.0

But I wanted to read it to start out, to kind of reset us as we continue visiting with the works of Owen Barfield.

0:40.0

And sometimes called the first and last, inkling the dear friend of CS Lewis as we discussed at some length last week.

0:48.0

And I said then that we were going to keep kind of digging into his philosophy more generally, which is what we're going to now go on to do.

0:57.0

I really want us to take our time with this guy, because he's a complex and strange thinker.

1:03.0

He's an offbeat writer and sometimes a difficult writer.

1:06.0

But I also think that he is a missing puzzle piece in our intellectual landscape.

1:13.0

He's like, you know, the key to life, the universe, and everything.

1:17.0

This one weird trick, like they say online.

1:20.0

There's just so much in his work that I think really deserves our attention.

1:25.0

So we're going to kind of keep digging into Owen Barfield today and next week.

1:31.0

And then that'll probably bring us the end.

1:33.0

And he's going to be one of those wide ranging episodes.

1:36.0

We won't just stick with Barfield.

1:38.0

We're going to be talking about quantum physics and the multiverse a little bit some more.

1:43.0

I'm going to read to you a portion from my book, How to Save the West, which is coming up.

1:47.0

And hopefully by the time we're done, we will get a sense of how some of the philosophy of perception and matter and form that we were talking about last week.

1:59.0

And then he talks together with Barfield's writing about language and the way that language works.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Spencer Klavan, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Spencer Klavan and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.