Ep 1215 | Jase Debates If Pink Floyd Can Be Worship Music & the Bible’s Strangest Rule

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

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Religion, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 23.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Jase, Al, and Zach launch a heated debate over what can technically be considered worship music, with Phil still remembered as the king of spinning secular songs into spiritual messages. The guys dig into the truth behind Jesus’ final words on the cross, and Jase pulls out the weirdest rule in the entire Bible off the top of his head. Plus, a trucker’s unexpected testimony has the guys wondering if a country music collab might be on the horizon. In this episode: John 19, verses 1–37; Genesis 22, verses 1–14; Isaiah 53, verse 12; Leviticus 16, verses 15–22; Psalm 22, verse 18; Psalm 34, verse 20; Exodus 12, verse 46; Numbers 9, verse 12; Deuteronomy 21, verse 22; Deuteronomy 20, verses 19–20; Luke 23, verses 32–43; Hebrews 13, verses 11–15; Ephesians 2, verses 21–22 “Unashamed” Episode 1215 is sponsored by: https://rocketmoney.com/unashamed — Cancel unwanted subscriptions with Rocket Money. The average person save up to $740 a year when using all of the app's premium features! https://cozyearth.com/unashamed — Get up to 40% off when you use our link or code UNASHAMED! https://tomorrowclubs.org/unashamed — For a limited time, all donations to this “Binga Blitz” will be matched! Join us now and double your impact! https://www.puretalk.com/unashamed — Get their best unlimited plan for just $29.95 a month! http://unashamedforhillsdale.com/ — Sign up now for free, and join the Unashamed hosts every Friday for Unashamed Academy Powered by Hillsdale College Check out At Home with Phil Robertson, nearly 800 episodes of Phil's unfiltered wisdom, humor, and biblical truth, available for free for the first time! Get it on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, and anywhere you listen to podcasts! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/at-home-with-phil-robertson/id1835224621 Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. Chapters: 00:00-06:24 Jase chooses Al’s new “walk up song” 06:25-14:30 Why Phil hated country music 14:31-19:00 Nashville is rediscovering Jesus 19:01-26:10 Pilate tries & fails to straddle the fence on Jesus 26:11-34:31 The four worst major aspects of crucifixion 34:32-41:33 Jesus last words before death 41:34-50:26 The scapegoat & sacrificial lamb in one 50:27-58:20 The thief on the cross makes his choice — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	So no matter how you slice it, we're definitely in a divided time in our country. There's no way around it. We see it every single day and watch the news. And so I think in this time of division, we have to have consistency that speaking into the values that we believe in. One of our good friends, Tony Perkins, heads up an organization called Family Research
0:22.9	Council. As a Louisiana guy, he's a pastor, he has our heart for Jesus. He even did a blurb in
0:29.5	dad's book, A Thet of America's Soul. And it's just been there for us as a family, but also as a nation.
0:36.9	So FRC is standing for what's right. They defend faith.
0:40.1	They protect families. They remind leaders that biblical truth still matters. So when others compromise,
0:46.4	our friends at FRC stand firm because if we lose our foundation, we lose the soul of our nation.
0:53.3	Unashamed Nation, you guys can help out FRC by defending
0:56.5	what matters most by visiting FRC.org slash unashamed to learn more. Check them out.
1:07.0	I am unashamed. What about you?
1:13.7	Welcome back to unashamed.
1:15.8	Jay says a frog in his throat.
1:17.9	I had the same problem in the last podcast.
1:23.6	You got to get some kind of mint in there, Zach, to sue the... You know, what happened is we've had our first cold weather.
1:28.1	And so when that happens, it just kind of triggers, because you got that high pressure that
1:33.4	rose in.
1:34.1	Last time Zach was in a last week or earlier this week, Zach was in a parka in his studio.
1:41.9	Remember that, Jay?
1:42.8	Oh, that was top 10 embarrassing things I've ever seen.
1:47.9	You're indoors wearing a foot thick jacket, like zipped up.
1:55.4	And then he got so excited about the point he was making.
1:58.4	I thought his head was going to blow off.
2:01.3	That's right, because he looked like he was all bound up and his head was just glowing.
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