Ep. 121 - Rev. Dr. Bradley Jersak & Wm. Paul Young ”The Pastor” Pt. 1

The Deconstructionists

John Williamson

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.4 • 823 Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2021

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Guest Info/Bio:This week I not one, but two guests! This week we welcome the Rev. Dr. Brad Jersak AND Wm. Paul Young! Brad holds a PhD in Theology and Religious Studies from Bangor University (Wales) and is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He serves as a reader and monastery preacher at All Saints of North America Orthodox Monastery. Wm. Paul Young is the best-selling author of the book The Shack, Cross Roads, and Eve, and the non-fiction book Lies We Believe About God. Guest (Select) Publications: Bradley Jersak: A More Christlike God: A More Beautiful Gospel; Her Gates Will Never Be Shut: Hell, Hope, and the New Jerusalem; A More Christlike Way: A More Beautiful Faith; IN: Incarnation & Inclusion, Abba & Lamb; and The Pastor: A Crisis Paul Young: The Shack; Cross Roads; Eve: A Novel; and The Pastor: A Crisis Guest Links:Brad Jersak: www.bradjersak.com Twitter: @bradjersakFacebook: https://m.facebook.com/BradJersak/ YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/BradJersakauthorPaul Young: www.wmpaulyoung.com Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/TheShackOfficialInstagram: @wmpaulyoung Special guest music on this episode provide by: Morningsiders Musical Guest/Music Links:www.morningsidersmusic.com Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Morningsiders Instagram: @morningsiders Enjoy the music?Songs heard on this episode were the singles, “Honey Hold Me” and “How Good It Is” and “How We Are” from the album Pollen. You can find Morningsiders music on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere good music is found!This episode of the Deconstructionists Podcast was edited by John Williamson and mixed and produced by Nicholas Rowe at National Audio Preservation Society: A full service recording studio and creative habitat, located in Heath, Ohio. Find them on Facebook and Twitter or visit their website for more information: www.nationalaudiopreservationsociety.weebly.com Stay on top of all of the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to check out our blog, snag a t-shirt, or follow us on social mediaJoin our Patreon family here: www.patreon.com/deconstructionists Website by Ryan BattlesAll photos by Jared HevronLogos designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen PfluigT-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0	On the theological side, in the Eastern Orthodox Church, you are allowed to reject eternal conscious torment.
0:07.4	You are allowed to reject the heresy of penal substitutionary atonement.
0:12.7	You're in fact called to reject the idea that there is retribution in the nature of God.
0:18.9	We would say that God is love plus nothing. Every,
0:22.7	every attribute of God can only ever be a facet of love. And so we would never say God is love,
0:32.3	but also. We would never say God is holy, just, righteous, or sovereign on its own.
0:39.9	Those are only adjectives for love.
0:42.4	And so he's not immutable or he's immutable love, you know, that which never turns away.
0:49.1	So on the theological side of it, so much stuff that I needed to let go of, they already
0:56.5	had in the fourth century.
0:58.5	And that includes even our Old Testament reading.
1:00.9	So, you know, they would say you never, ever read about the wrath of God as if he's literally
1:09.1	the agent of violent anger, that's ridiculous.
1:12.1	They knew this.
1:13.2	And we forgot it, and we forgot it on purpose because it was handy to have a wrathful God.
1:18.5	When we first started out, had no idea what we were in for, what this was was about I never knew.
1:32.3	No, I never knew.
1:38.3	Welcome to the Deconstructionist podcast. I'm your host, John Williamson, and this week I'm very excited, very, very excited.
1:45.0	First of all, there's a guest, not just one, but two guests. Yes, I figured out technology
1:52.1	enough to the point where I was able to interview two people at the same time, not in the same
1:58.8	room as me. So it was a challenge, but I think we did it.
2:02.7	But I'm very excited because one of the guests I've had on my to get list for a while,
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