This is trend following radio where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

Reaching back into my archives this summer of 2023 in August. Two episodes that will get you

thinking, debating, pondering, digging. If you can't walk away from these two conversations

with your mind feeling a little bit more stimulated,

there's something wrong with you.

Now, there might be something wrong with you to begin with.

That's not my problem.

But I'm here to offer a solution.

I'm here to offer some help.

Without any further sarcasm for me,

let's dive into two great conversations.

I hope you enjoy.

One of the joys of this podcast is that I get to scratch my itch.

Today on my show is a guest who knows a lot about subjects that I have a deep interest in. This would be the Vietnam War and some of the key

actors like the President Lyndon Johnson and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara.

Brian has written many books on the subject and the men.

Definitely worth checking out.

He is a history professor at the Naval Academy in Annapolis.

And one of the great things about this podcast, when I have that itch, is that I just reach out to people directly and say, hey,

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