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I'm having a bit of a hot, I've got a hole in my dress, I'm very, I'm looking a bit

poverty-stricken at the moment, to be honest with you, dude. I went out last night to do

a gig, I had a hole in my shoe, and now I'm wearing a dress with a hole in it. It's

not a good look. Anyway, where are you? I'm in court. I'm in Pastylands. I could hear happiness

and contentment dripping. Oh Jenny, the weather is so gorgeous, the sea is calm, I've been

for a swim round the harbor. Do you mean the bit underneath your apartment? Do you just

go in or there? Well, I do, of course, there are people that do, but yeah, no, it's

great. You have to go quite slowly down the slupy bit, because obviously being a catastrophiser,

I think I'm going, whoops on the seaweed and crash my head out and get the helicopter ambulance

out, etc. But if you just go gingerly, it's gingerly down, it's quite cool, though, Jenny.

Of course, no, I wouldn't, well, I mean, you're not the only maniac, I've got a photograph

from Phoebe in New Zealand, and it's winter there, it's there, winter depths of winter,

though, I don't think they really have depths of winter in New Zealand. And she was in

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