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I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

My guest today is Garrett Nyman.

He is the author of a book, a quite controversial title,

Rich White Men. Yes, we jump right into it today. A interesting conversation covering lots of

territory. Food for thought from many different angles. I tell Garrett in the beginning, this is probably the most controversial book that I've read

to bring on to this podcast.

But hey, I respected the individual that connected us together.

And I said, gosh, let's give it a shot.

Let's see what happens.

Without any further delay, let's jump right into my conversation with Garrett Nutt.

Garrett, I got to tell you, with your background, Stanford, Harvard.

I don't know the exact names, and I'm not trying to go down that path,

but I'm sure I've had professors on this show from both of those universities that you may

have had as teachers or professors. It's been a really interesting podcast that I've done for so

long, started off as trading primarily, but now clearly I talked to everybody. I'm kind of like Joe Rogan Light

in terms of more variety. I think I've really ended up having a lot of academic conversations

with so many professors on this podcast. But I will have to say, and I've so many different

books over the years since 2012, I'm going to guess. I think it was because of a mutual

connection. And I figured, well,

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