Welcome to the stacks, a podcast about books and the people who read them.

I'm your host Tracy Thomas and today our guest is Kieleiman.

Kie say is an author, professor, an essayist, most well known for his memoir Heavy.

He's also the author of Long Division, a novel, and a collection of essays called How to Slowly

Kill Yours and Others in America.

Today we talk about vision and revision, the white gaze, and our problematic faves.

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All right, let's get on to my conversation with Kieza layman.

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