The Tom Woods Show, episode 1172.

Prepare to set fire to the index card of allowable opinion.

Your daily dose of liberty education starts here, the Tom Woods Show.

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over at freehistorycourse.com. Everybody, Tom Woods here, we're talking about the police today,

and as libertarians, we have plenty to say about the police. And as Rothbardian

libertarians, we have still more to say. What should the system look like? And what are some of the

problems with the monopoly government provision of policing services? We would need police

services one way or another. But what would they look like if they were not provided by a

coercive monopoly? That's the kind of question I want to run by our guest today, and that's Tate

Fegley, who is a 2018 Mises Institute fellow. He won the Grant Aldrich graduate student

essay prize at the Austrian Economics Research Conference, and he's currently a PhD student

in economics at George Mason University. Tate, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me. You've done quite a few pieces on police, and it got to the point where when I put out a request for what are some topics and guests I should have, I had somebody say, well, why the heck are you not having Tate on to talk about all his

work on police? And I looked and I thought, how is this happening under my nose and I have

not, I haven't followed it enough. So very good, interesting stuff. Let's start with the most

controversial. Well, it's hard to say what's the most controversial, because we're

talk about privatizing police. I guess that would also be controversial. But let's situate what you've been writing in the context of the ongoing debate about police in our society.

Because, of course, there's the back-the-blue signs that we see in a lot of places by people who support the police.

And then on the other hand, you have people who say that the police are using excessive force.

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