Hello and welcome to episode 117 of the Thinking Elsap podcast. This is Ben Olson in Washington, D.C. on a rainy night. And with me is Nathan Fox.

How you doing? Good. Where you at?

I am in Los Angeles. I played golf today in shorts and short sleeves all day.

Cool. So that's why we had to reschedule.

Yes, that is why we had to reschedule. Yes, that is why we had to reschedule.

I got a golf invitation and I immediately sent you a text and said, hey buddy, can we reschedule?

And you kindly said yes.

Yeah.

So that's what happened. Cool. cool well I'm glad to do it at night you

know actually it's funny last night was the first class since the December else that happened and everybody filed in and they're kind of

molling around and I was waiting for the class to get started I didn't want to jump the

gun because it wasn't time

yet but you know we're just sitting there so I'm like does anyone have any

questions and the first question I got I don't know if I could have asked for a better question but it was is law school

worth two hundred thousand dollars yeah I was like no no no it's just a good way to get you know the class going because everybody I think was kind of like wait what what have I signed up for what is going on here?

Yeah I know I got a call today from a prospective student who was you know she she had taken it on

on Saturday December 2nd and she knew she didn't do as well as she could have and she's looking at a February retake and she's

wanting to sign up and work with me and I just I spent like 15 minutes yelling at

her about how yes she needs to take it in February but she also needs to apply at the

beginning of the next cycle with the best all-sat score she can possibly get and

just not pay for law school. So yeah that's great so you how long did you yell at them about how

it's not worth 200 grand? I think that took like 10 minutes actually I don't usually yeah you went easy I like to you know let the facts speak for themselves sometime

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