In this one, Cody talks to Brock Lindow of 36 Crazyfists. For 25 years, he was the vocalist of the band and, along with his bandmates, he wrote albums and performed songs, toured, connected with people at shows on a nightly basis and then repeated the cycle. He was 18 years old when 36 started — a founding member — and at that age, young bravado and vitality helped them be, as Brock puts it, a band of the people. They partied with fans before and after shows. They moved to Seattle, then to Portland, to pursue a dream of being rockstars. And they did it, they were rockstars. Kids from Alaska playing their music all over the United States, Europe and South Africa. Fans knew their lyrics, asked for autographs. And Brock appreciated all of it, but he never got comfortable with it. Fame just wasn’t for him and he always longed for being back in Alaska, hanging out with his friends and commercial fishing with his dad. He’s 47 now and he doesn’t miss being on the road, driving endlessly from venue to venue. He prefers being with his family, hanging out with his friends, co-hosting the Bob and Brock Show on KWHL, and being his daughter’s biggest fan at her hockey games. He says he’s still learning how to manage his energy and his enthusiasm at her games though — sometimes it can be tough separating himself from his rockstar days to being the role model he needs to be for his family, but it’s essential. And he hasn’t given up on music, he probably never will. It tends to show up when he needs it most. Like during COVID, when everyone was navigating all of the uncertainty, he connected with a few old friends and a few new ones to form a new band called Paradise Slaves.