So I have Jason Gangerd with me and the reason I have Jason is because Jason hosted the

conference, the Mastermind Talks, where I was able to interview freeway Rick Ross on

the stage in front of how many people were there, Jason?

We had 150 people in attendance.

150 and there were all, I mean this was a high-powered audience.

Everyone was like an incredible entrepreneur and I don't want to tweet my horn but I

think nobody really wanted to hear what I had to say but everybody wanted to hear what

Rick Ross had to say is the largest drug dealer in history and Jason why did you choose

him to come to the conference and why did you choose me to interview him?

Honestly, James and I listen to a lot of podcasts and you have a lot of friends who are

big names in the podcasting space.

I thoroughly believe that you're one of the best interviewers in the space.

I mean the amount of research you do on your guests is really second to none and I knew

going into that interview with Rick you would be well researched and you were.

You said you read like every article.

Oh yeah, I watched two documentaries.

I read his autobiography, I read other books about the whole Iran country thing where

he was kind of this pond in the middle which was a fascinating story all by itself even

though he was like a peripheral character in that story.

It was still fascinating.

So that's exactly why I thought you'd be great for it is again you do incredible research

of people you ask unconventional questions and sometimes you ask questions that people

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