EP 115: Francis Chan: You Were Made to Enjoy God (Not Perform)
In Totality with Megan Ashley
Megan Ashley
4.9 • 4.3K Ratings
🗓️ 12 May 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
This week, I’m humbled and honored to bring you a conversation with someone whose ministry has made a huge impact in my walk recently— Pastor and Author Francis Chan. If you’ve been with me this season of In Totality, you know I’ve been taking my Patreon community through his latest book, Beloved, and this conversation is one that I've been praying for— and I cannot wait for you to hear it.
Beloved has deeply shaped how I see my relationship with God. It confronted something I didn’t even realize I was doing — trying to serve Him from a place of striving and performance, like I could somehow pay God back, instead of simply receiving His love as a daughter.
Francis and I talk about what it means to know God as Father — not just as Judge or Lord or the One we serve — and how easy it is to miss the very thing we were made for: enjoying Him.
We get into the difference between performing for God and truly abiding in Him, and why His love has to stay at the center of everything. You are going to want to listen to this more than once!
My prayer for you is that this episode helps you slow down, receive, and remember — you are not just called to love Him. You are invited to remain in Him.
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| 0:00.0 | What's up, family? Before we jump into today's episode, I want to share something close to my heart, |
| 0:05.5 | our in totality Patreon community, The Village. If you ever listen to the podcast and you thought, |
| 0:10.8 | wow, I really wish there was more, this is exactly why I created this space. You'll receive |
| 0:16.2 | early access to every episode, so while others are hearing it for the first time, you'll already be watching |
| 0:21.6 | it and soaking it in. But it's not just that. You'll also get access to the Inotality do |
| 0:26.6 | docu-series, which is like my vlog, which shows what I do when I'm not on the podcast. And that's not |
| 0:32.4 | it. You'll also be the first to know about merch drops, events, and opportunities to connect in real life. |
| 0:39.3 | One of my favorite parts is our Bible study and book clubs where we're walking through |
| 0:43.3 | scripture together and encouraging one another in the faith. On Patreon, we are building a |
| 0:48.9 | community that truly desires a relationship with the Lord pursues truth and supports one another. And I would love for you |
| 0:55.9 | to be a part of that. So if you want more, come join the village on Patreon. The link is in the |
| 1:01.5 | description and I can't wait to see you there. I am so thrilled and privileged. |
| 1:11.7 | Please welcome my very special guest, Francis Chan. |
| 1:15.0 | Thanks, Megan. |
| 1:15.8 | Thank you for this book. |
| 1:18.6 | Just chapter one, wrecked me. |
| 1:20.8 | I can't believe how many of us miss it. |
| 1:23.5 | This is why he made us. |
| 1:25.3 | This is the most amazing truth, Like, our God, Megan. |
| 1:28.7 | Yeah. I want to drown out the other voices, too, and just hear from the word. The enemy's still, my head, I still get back into performance mode. |
| 1:37.8 | Bible says, the more you talk, the more you're going to sin. So people just say, oh, I talk a lot. I go, well, you sin a lot. |
| 1:44.1 | You talk a lot about abiding in God's love. |
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