Hello and welcome to episode 108 of the Thinking Elsap podcast in Los. I'm Nathan Fox with me in Washington DC, Ben Olson.

How's it going, Ben?

It's going good.

You get any kind of a break after the September El-Sat or are you busy as you ever were? No it's definitely a little bit of a break. It's still

picking back up though again pretty quickly just because it's you know December's right

around the corner. Yeah well the December test is early this year too so people are

it's smart to get on it right now.

Got Thanksgiving in there as well.

So what do we have?

10 weeks or something like that?

Yeah.

10 weeks and there's Thanksgiving in between.

So a couple months.

Yeah, if people are starting right

now they have I have a decent chance to get ready in time for the for the December

test yeah yeah and what did, what's the report on the test overall, the September 2017 test?

Well, what I keep hearing is that the games were easy and that the reading comp or at least one of the passages was hard and that L.R. was pretty normal. Is that what you're hearing?

Yeah, I'm hearing some, of course people always think it was weird.

But yeah, the games, it does sound like the games, just like June, I think the games in June were easy and the games in September were easy.

So people were happy about that.

There was the one reading comprehension passage, something about judicial candor or something like that. I mean 10 different people probably complain to me

about that one passage. I think there's like a herd mentality right because people go

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