And now, from the University of Chicago Institute of Politics and CNN, the Axviles, with your

host, David Axelrod.

I first met Barack Obama when he returned to Chicago from law school in the early 90s

to run a voter registration drive.

And while I didn't realize at that moment where history would take him, I was taken by

him as someone who really cared about public service was committed to devoting his life

to it.

And together we had an incredible journey.

Now as the New Year approaches, the days are ticking down on the Obama administration.

And so I went by the White House to sit down with my old friend and reflect on the road

he's traveling.

So Mr. President, I actually came over to help you pack, but I really appreciate you

dropping by.

This is a great surprise to be able to sit down with you.

You know, I was over at the Kennedy Center the other night for the Kennedy Center Awards.

And when you walked in, there was this thunderous and lengthy ovation and lots of tears.

And you know me, so you know that I was among those who were tearing up.

And I was, but then I was thinking, what are you thinking?

And is it beginning to hit you that this is coming to an end?

Well, let me make a couple of points.

Number one, you're the last guy I would have helped me pack.

Okay.

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