Ep. 108 Getting Real with the Enneagram: Four - The Individualist | The Debrief Podcast with Matt Brown

The Debrief Podcast with Matthew Stephen Brown

Sandals Church

Spirituality, Christianity, Deconstruction, Religion & Spirituality, Culture, Faith

4.9 • 799 Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2018

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

How do you balance your faith vs your feelings? What do you do when no one really gets you? What’s the link between envy and creativity? Listen in as Pastor Matt and guests unpack what it’s like to be a Four on the Enneagram.

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0:00.0	But yeah, the earthquake was, I thought it was our cat, just like being crazy.
0:03.2	And then I was like, no, this is a little more than my cat.
0:04.7	How big is your cat?
0:06.4	You live in mobile.
0:08.0	Like, it's either my cat or like someone's shooting outside.
0:12.2	And usually it's my cat.
0:13.2	So I was like, okay, hopefully it's my cat. Well, hey everybody and welcome to the debrief with your friends here at Sandals Church, where we are getting real answers to tough questions. I am Stephanie Schaefer and I'm here with our fearless leader, the PMB, Pastor Matt Brown. You have a newagram. And this week, we are talking all about the four.
0:54.6	Two wonderful guests with us here today are resident fours. Well, some of our resident fours.
0:58.9	They're going to let the four roll. Elena and Andrew, do you guys want to introduce yourselves?
1:01.9	Sure. I'll go first. I'm going to four out. My name is Elena and yeah, I'm a four. I'm a marketing lead here at Sandel Church. My name is Andrew and I'm the lead designer here at Sandals Church. Both of you have been on the debrief before. Oh, that's true. Returning guests. Welcome back.
1:15.2	Yeah. Yes. I was a happy accident, but we won't go into that. It was a very happy accident. We had fun on that episode. are basically responsible for making all the things that look, sound, and feel awesome here at Sandel's Church.
1:27.7	So we really enjoy them. And they're going to get to talk to us all about. Are you both four-wing
1:31.2	threes? Yes. Yeah, that's what I figured. Yeah. Okay. So I'm a three-wing four. So I can't quite
1:37.5	grapple with your emotion, but I can get close. Yeah. I think my four is a three. So, here's what I'm married to a four,
1:47.4	which is great. So I think my four has grown from a one to a three while being married to him.
1:52.3	But yeah, I love and appreciate the fours. I think nines and fours do. We do. Most of the time. Is your husband a nine? Yes. He's a nine with a really high eight.
2:01.4	Yeah, yeah.
2:01.7	Nine wing eight.
2:02.6	Okay, cool.
2:03.5	Yeah.
2:04.1	So, all right, we are going to be talking all about the four.
2:07.3	So Pastor Matt, can you just kind of give us an overview?
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