The Tom Woods Show, episode 1779.

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Hi everybody, Tom Woods here. Talking today about the idea of utopia, but we're really talking about

Thomas Moore's work, Utopia, and perhaps using that as a jumping off point to talk about the

idea of utopia, utopian societies, utopian experiments, and we're having this conversation

with Justine Brown, who holds a PhD in English literature from the University of

Toronto. She's the author of all possible worlds, utopian experiments in British Columbia,

and has reflected quite a bit on the significance of Thomas Moore's work. So I thought we would

have this interesting conversation today. Justine, welcome. Hello, I'm very glad to be here.

Never talked about Thomas Moore on the show.

I mean, maybe in passing, I might have referred to him in connection with Henry the 8th, but I'm not sure.

Maybe I have.

I certainly have not ever discussed his work Utopia.

And you sent me a fairly challenging and certainly interesting account of what he was up to

in that work, which has been, as you know, a source of controversy for quite some time.

Before we get into the interpretation of it, why don't you set the stage by telling us

a little bit about him and just at least the background of what you're going to find if you crack open utopia.

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