The Tom Woods Show, episode 1777.

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Hey everybody, Tom Woods here talking to Michael Dauma today, who is assistant research professor in the McDonough School of Business at Georgetown University.

He's also the director of the Georgetown Institute for the study of markets and ethics.

And we're going to talk in particular about his co-edited book, What is Classical Liberal History, co-edited with our old friend Phil Magnus?

Michael, welcome to the show.

Hey, Tom.

Good to hear from you.

It's been a long time since you and I have spoken,

but I'm glad you're doing well in academia.

I mean, the fact that you're in academia at all is a miracle, given how tough the market is,

and given that, you know, we have somewhat unusual views,

and you're doing great, and I could not be happier about that.

So I want to talk. I just told people about your book, and we definitely want to talk about that.

Let's start off by talking about why you would need to write a book like this.

What is it that's going on in academia? This is the fattest softball over the plate. I think I have fed a guest in many a week.

What is going on in academia that you would need to write a book about classical liberal history?

Well, of course, Tom, as you know, there's lots of problems with academia, and I won't get into all of them.

I think I'll focus on the history discipline, which is a strong,

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