Welcome to the Deconstructionist podcast. I'm your host John Williamson, and we are back. I finally have most of my voice back. It was pretty rough the last two weeks, so allergies or something.

But anyway, we are back, and this week we have a musician on. So haven't had a musician on

a little while. We have John Steingard on this week. If you remember the band Hawk Nelson,

he was, I believe, first the guitar player and then took over singing duties at some point.

But he is Canadian by birth, as he puts it, Californian by choice.

But he is also a director and filmmaker from San Diego.

And so he's got a really cool creative project going on where he does a lot of video work there called John Steingard Creative.

And we just had a really cool conversation. It's very interesting. I've always been kind of

fascinated with this idea of folks who kind of basically grew up spiritually within the context of a

quote Christian band and how how that impacts like not only

you know the music that you write and the and the art that you create but also you know as you

get older and maybe perhaps your belief system kind of changes a little bit and evolves how

does that look within the context of being

a quote Christian musician? Because there doesn't seem to be, at least from the outside perspective,

a whole lot of room for growth, or at least society, like giving you room for growth. So we

had a really cool, interesting conversation about the industry,

what that looks like to be a popular Christian band, and what happens when your beliefs change

and potentially change to the extent where maybe you no longer believe the vast majority

of what you once believed and what that looks like. So really fun conversation and I hope you

guys enjoy it. We have episodes recorded for the next couple months at least. We're working on

stuff for around the holidays, which is crazy to be thinking about that already. But as always, we'll try to do some

fun stuff for October for Halloween. I've got some ideas. We'll see if they come to pass or not.

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