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🗓️ 8 June 2018
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On this episode, we wrap up our logical deconstruction of the Book of Abraham. We focus our petrifying gaze on the lds.org essay titled, ‘Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham,’ the LDS Church’s official statement on this challenging piece of Mormon scripture. Is it merely more apologetics, or is there something special with this essay compared with other apologetic arguments for the ‘historical plausibility’ of the Book of Abraham? No, it’s just delicately worded apologetics we discussed at length last week. What more can we learn from this essay? What would it look like for the Brighamite LDS Church to disavow an historically authentic interpretation of this book and other Mormon scripture? We use the RLDS as an analogue to muse on what the Church has to lose when it comes to moving into an unorthodox and progressive stance on scripture and doctrine.
Links:
Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham
https://www.lds.org/topics/translation-and-historicity-of-the-book-of-abraham?lang=eng
Book of Abraham and Kirtland Egyptian material
http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/site/book-of-abraham-and-egyptian-material
Kirtland Egyptian language and grammar
http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/grammar-and-alphabet-of-the-egyptian-language-circa-july-circa-november-1835/7
Original printing of Book of Abraham and Facsimile 1
http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/book-of-abraham-and-facsimiles-1-march-16-may-1842/1
Book of Abraham MormonThink
http://www.mormonthink.com/book-of-abraham-issues.htm#theegyptionpapyriwerenotall
Lucy Mack Smith Book of Abraham ‘translation’ method
http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/intro/introduction-to-book-of-abraham-manuscripts
Roger Launius The Reorganized Church, the Decade of Decision, and the Abilene Paradox
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/issues/V31N01.pdf
Community of Christ FY2017 Budget
http://www.cofchrist.org/common/cms/resources/Documents/FY17-Budget-ENGLISH.pdf
Community of Christ D&C 163
https://www.cofchrist.org/doctrine-and-covenants-section-163
Current LDS Membership Statistics
http://www.cumorah.com/index.php?target=church_growth_articles
Current LDS Income Statistics
http://www.churchistrue.com/blog/lds-membership-statistics-report-2017/
LDS Self-reported Membership Statistics
https://www.mormonnewsroom.org/topic/church-growth
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0:00.0 | Our Heavenly Father has reserved many of his most noble spirits. |
0:05.0 | Perhaps I might say his finest team for this final phase. |
0:11.0 | Those noble spirits, those finest players, those heroes are you. |
0:20.0 | I testify that the gathering is now, and it is real. In the year I was born, |
0:29.3 | the total membership of the church was less than 600,000 people, with no members in South America. |
0:40.6 | Today, there are more than 16 million members worldwide, with nearly 3 million members in South America. |
0:50.8 | I am Ryan McKnight. |
0:52.5 | I'm Kara Santa Maria. |
0:54.1 | I am Christopher Smith. Hi, I Kara Santa Maria. I am Christopher Smith. |
0:55.6 | Hi, I'm Andrew Torres. |
0:57.1 | This is Naked Mormonism. |
1:00.1 | The Serial Mormon History Podcast. |
1:08.1 | Today's show is part two of the logical deconstruction of the Book of Abraham. |
1:16.7 | Last episode was a brief rundown of apologetic arguments used to claim, quote, unquote, historical plausibility for the Book of Abraham, which is a nice way to dance around the issue that it can't be proven |
1:28.0 | to be historically probable or even authentic. So plausibility is the only level of authenticity |
1:34.2 | we can ascribe to it. This is the final position of retreat for those claiming something |
1:39.2 | contrary to all the evidence academia and science has provided. Anything is plausible, much in the same way that anything is possible, but possibility and |
1:48.4 | plausibility are merely hypotheses used to ascertain the accuracy of models in scientific |
1:54.7 | probability. |
1:56.5 | Theories are constructed as best possible ways to explain all the evidence to the highest degree of probability, |
2:02.8 | and theories are fluid and subject to change upon the introduction of new verifiable information. |
2:07.9 | No theory or historical model could be constructed, which includes an authentic Book of Abraham being what Joseph Smith claimed it to be. |
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