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Naked Mormonism Podcast

Ep 105 – Book of Abraham Logical pt1

Naked Mormonism Podcast

Bryce Blankenagel

Ldschurch, Christianity, Latterdaysaints, Religion, Ldschurchhistory, Mormons, Religion & Spirituality, Mormonhistory, Bookofmormon, Mormonism, Josephsmith, Mormon

4.7680 Ratings

🗓️ 1 June 2018

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, we jump into the logical deconstruction of the Book of Abraham. We deal with the apologetic arguments made to claim the Book of Abraham is ‘historically plausible’. Historically plausible doesn’t mean probable or authentic, so what does it really mean? Can one believe in a book of scripture if it’s ‘historically plausible,’ even if that plausibility flies in the face of the historicity of the documents being authentic? We take apologist arguments line by line and systematically break them down into their constituent parts, hopefully arming you, the listener, with an arsenal of arguments against the historicity of the Book of Abraham.

Links:

Historical Plausibility: The Historicity of the Book of Abraham as a Case Study
https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/historicity-and-latter-day-saint-scriptures/3-historical-plausibility-historicity-book

MormonThink Book of Abraham essay
http://www.mormonthink.com/book-of-abraham-issues.htm#ref2

Stephen E. Thompson essay on BoA
http://mit.irr.org/lds-egyptologist-doubts-joseph-smith-translated-book-of-abraham-egyptian-scroll

Egyptology and the Book of Abraham Stephen E. Thompson
https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V28N01_155.pdf

Joseph Smith Papers Egyptian materials
http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/site/book-of-abraham-and-egyptian-material

Translating the BoA in Joseph Smith Journal 1842
http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/journal-december-1841-december-1842/19

Translating Egyptian into grammar and alphabet in Joseph Smith journal
http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/journal-1835-1836/4

Egyptian grammar
http://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/grammar-and-alphabet-of-the-egyptian-language-circa-july-circa-november-1835/7

Kerry Muhlstein Book of Abraham Challenges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMVX-Km_G6Y&list=PLNt4VOT9Z1fZNcekTzaV0Wbjx6kQTPlr4

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Apostles rarely speak to the media, but I get to meet one of the quorum of 12, Elder Holland.

0:08.8

Joseph Smith got these papyri, and he translated them. And subsequently, as the Egyptian,

0:14.6

Egyptologists cracked the code, something completely different. All I'm saying, all I'm saying is that what got translated

0:22.9

got translated into the Word of God,

0:25.9

the vehicle for that,

0:28.3

I do not understand and don't claim to know

0:30.6

and know no Egyptian.

0:33.0

I am Ryan McKnight.

0:34.7

I'm Kara Santa Maria.

0:36.2

I am Christopher Smith. Hi, I'm Kara Santa Maria. I am Christopher Smith.

0:37.7

Hi, I'm Andrew Torres.

0:39.2

This is Naked Mormonism.

0:42.3

The Serial Mormon History Podcast. We've been covering the Book of Abraham for two weeks now.

1:01.4

Part one was the physical aspect, tracking the papyri and the cultural interest in Egyptology

1:06.9

in 19th century Western societies, you know, colloquially referred to as Egyptomania.

1:12.4

Part two covered the spiritual aspect of the Book of Abraham.

1:15.9

A lot of interesting doctrine and theology specific to Mormonism comes from the book of Abraham alone,

1:20.5

including Kolob, the belief in gods instead of God, the Mormon creation passion narrative

1:25.3

that's practiced in the temple today, and of course,

1:31.5

the priesthood ban on any descendant of Cain, all that from the Book of Abraham.

1:36.3

Today, we begin the logical deconstruction of the Book of Abraham.

1:41.5

It's been a long wait getting to this portion of our examination, and I hope you all are looking forward to it just as much as I am.

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