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I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

This is a fun conversation for me.

With a old friend of mine, someone I've known since we're

teenagers.

Mark Jorman, the head baseball coach at James Madison High School in Vienna, Virginia.

Mark is affectionately known as Pudge.

Though when I was a kid, I always called him Mark,

so I think Pudge came later, or I never called him that. Maybe he would kick my butt for not referring

to him as Pudge. I know everyone else pretty much does. But Mark is a damn accomplished high school

baseball coach. We're talking three state championships in the state of

Virginia. We're talking the Hall of Fame. High school Hall of Fame for baseball coaches.

That's insane. That's awesome. He has been coaching for 26, 27 years. Young guy, early 50s.

Just getting started. I take Mark around all kinds of

interesting issues because not only has he had all the success as a coach, he's developed

this entrepreneurial side business, this travel business that has gone well beyond baseball, something near and dear to me,

seeing the world, helping fellow Americans see the world.

So many of us Americans like to just stay inside the borders.

And Mark has done a hell of a job in his way of changing that.

It will help today if you got a little bit of a baseball understanding. But I think, if anything, you'll feel the passion. The passion for me, the passion

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