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Welcome back to the curious podcast my name is Josh Pek and I'm your host and your name is listener

And that's what you do you listen and right now we got some of that

ill-podcasting for you my friend Nick built in his back. He's

Truly one of my favorite authors writers. You know, I fell in love with his book catching Twitter as it was suggested by a friend of mine

Casey nice that no big deal. We're very close and then it led me to read his next book American Kingpin

Which is about Ross O'Brick in the Silk Road and I just think Nick is masterful when it comes to telling incredibly

interesting true stories in a way that feels like you're reading just a really juicy crime novel and

Right, you know doing this podcast is

Is sort of an effort in which to talk to people like Nick so the fact that we got to connect glass here

I got to have him on the show and now we're kind of friends and that he was willing to jump into the pod during this crazy

Pandia Vars was just awesome

So we had a great conversation make sure you check out his podcast for vanity fair called inside the hive

And I hope you enjoy Nick built it

Dude how are you? I'm okay. How are you you how you're like what a

A mile away from here something like that. I am. I'm not far away

And I've got you know, I'm in a two-bedroom apartment with the 16-month old so what could go wrong? Oh nice

Well, we at least have a backyard, but we have a three year old and a four and a half year old and

a mother-in-law and

two large dogs one of which is a German Shepherd that thinks it's his job to bark at every

Single solitary thing that walks by our house

Other than that we're doing great sounds like heaven

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