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Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher

Ep 104 | Last Tango in Cyberspace | Guest: Steven Kotler

Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher

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News, News Commentary, Daily News, Society & Culture

4.92.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2019

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

An expert on human peak performance, keynote speaker and New York Times bestselling author Steven Kotler makes an epic return to the world of fiction with his near-future technothriller, LAST TANGO IN CYBERSPACE (published by St. Martin’s Press). Lion Zorn is the first of his kind—an empathy tracker, an emotional soothsayer. In simpler terms, he can spot cultural shifts and trends before they happen. It’s a useful skill for a certain kind of company.Arctic Pharmaceuticals is that kind of company. But when a routine em-tracking job leads to the discovery of a gruesome murder, Lion finds himself neck-deep in a world of eco-assassins, soul hackers, and consciousness terrorists. But what the man really needs is a nap.A unique blend of cutting-edge technology and traditional cyberpunk, LAST TANGO IN CYBERSPACE explores hot topics like psychology, neuroscience, technology, as well as ecological and animal rights issues. The world created in Last Tango is based very closely on our world about five years from now, and all technology in the book either exists in labs or is rumored to exist. With its electrifying sentences, subtle humor, and an intriguing main character, readers are sure to find something that resonates with them in this groundbreaking cyberpunk science fiction thriller. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You know what's the worst could happen Stephen, but I mean apps follow you, track you right that? That happens, not real life.

0:14.0

I always tell people like everybody's so concerned about an AI waking up

0:18.0

and like how do you, we know that like one's not awake already?

0:22.0

Thank you. If Facebook's waked up, first thing Facebook's going to do in Facebook wakes up is reads

0:26.6

Facebook and figure out, holy crap, these humans are terrified about an AI waking up, I better hide.

0:31.7

So I don't know. question. Yeah I mean we look

0:35.5

Stephen. Stephen Kotler author of Last Tango in cyberspace joining us here on chewing the fat. Stephen, we've already

0:46.4

allowed all of this into our lives. It's no question. I mean I don't know you know how much more scared we can get because we've

0:56.1

already allowed it in. I mean if we get scared okay but you're you we said it was okay

1:01.2

come in we want the convenience yeah and I'm not

1:04.2

scared I mean I think there's good I mean we are definitely looking at massive

1:09.1

levels of accelerated change right some of the stuff I'm trying to get at in last time on cyberspace is how quickly the world

1:14.8

is going to change over the next five years. But even with AI, right, the current cutting edge

1:19.7

of the research shows that the most fruitful collaborations are AI and human together.

1:24.7

So everybody's cared about AI is coming for our jobs, maybe, but the best we're being able to do

1:29.7

is AI and human together and that unlocks whole new creative possibilities.

1:33.7

I'm excited about those.

1:34.9

Yeah, look, we all want the convenience and we also want, we want to be able to see what the future

1:41.1

holds and the future is going to hold

1:45.1

humans and AI hopefully working together for a long time. I mean that's gonna happen.

1:51.5

When you write, you know know your last tango in in cyberspace your

1:57.0

latest book you know is you know based in the future at least presumably a few years ahead. How hard is it in today's world

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