Ep. 104 - Dr. Drew Hart ”Who Will Be A Witness?” A Conversation on Racism

The Deconstructionists

John Williamson

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.4 • 823 Ratings

🗓️ 8 July 2020

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Guest/Bio: This week we bring back one of our favorite guests, Dr. Drew Hart. Drew G. I. Hart is a professor in theology, an author, and an activist with ten years of pastoral experience. His undergraduate work was in biblical studies at Messiah College, he received his Masters of Divinity degree with an urban concentration at Biblical Seminary, and he recently defended his dissertation in the field of theology and ethics at Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia. Currently he is a part-time professor for several PA seminaries and schools but in the Fall of 2016 he begins teaching full-time as an assistant professor in theology at Messiah College. Drew spent most of his young adult years leading and mentoring black and brown youth as a pastor, working for an inner city after-school program, and working closely with Philadelphia based nonprofits. Today, along with teaching theology, Drew is currently passionate about partnering with community groups and churches to facilitate anti-racism training and seminars, as well as delivering lectures, talks, and sermons. Regularly speaking at churches, conferences, and colleges, Drew brings together his pastoral experience with his academic training to challenge the Church on a variety of topics. He has been particularly invested in conversations on white supremacy and racism and their entanglements with western Christianity, but Drew also speaks and writes about Christian discipleship, western Christendom, Christian history, liberation and oppression, peacemaking and nonviolent resistance, urban ministry, social media, etc. Drew has a Christian Century hosted blog entitled ‘Taking Jesus Seriously’, while also writing occasionally for The Mennonite as well. Guest Published Works: “Trouble I’ve Seen: Changing The Way The Church Views Racism” & the forthcoming book, “Who Will Be A Witness: Igniting Activism For God’s Justice, Love, and Deliverance.” Guest links: https://www.drewihart.com https://www.christiancentury.org/blogs/taking-jesus-seriously https://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailverify?uri=TakingJesusSeriously&loc=en_US Twitter: @DruHart Facebook: @Drew.GI.Hart For other episodes on race/racism: Ep. 35 w/Dr. Drew Hart, Ep. 78 w/Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove, and Ep. 103 w/Drew Brown. Special Music Provided by: Firewoodisland www.firewoodisland.com Twitter: @firewoodisland Instagram: @firewoodisland Facebook: @firewoodisland Like the songs on this episode? Songs used on the podcast were: “Storm, Mutually, & One with the Mountain” from the album, Firewoodisland and “Soldier” from the album, Chaos Is the State of Heart. You can find Firewoodisland’s tunes on iTunes, Apple Music, Spotify, SoundCloud, YouTube, or anywhere good music can be found! Stay on top of all the latest at www.thedeconstructionists.com Go there to read our blog, grab one of our many t-shirt designs, snag a pint glass or coffee mug, follow us on social media, or join our Patreon family! The Deconstructionists Podcast is edited by John Williamson This episode was produced by THE Nicholas Rowe. Website by Ryan Battles All photos courtesy of Jared Hevron Logo & graphics designed by Joseph Ernst & Stephen Pflug T-shirt designs by Joseph Ernst, Chad Flannigan, Colin Rigsby, and Jason Turner. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-deconstructionists/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0	Morning people wake up for peace and quiet.
0:03.0	McDonald's breakfast people?
0:05.0	We wake up for the sweet rush of getting that warm, delicious breakfast right before it ends.
0:12.0	Crush your morning goals with a steak egg and cheese bagel or any breakfast sandwich
0:17.0	and snag another one for just a buck with the buy one get one deal only in the
0:21.8	McDonald's app limited time only at participating McDonald's valid ones per day must opt into rewards
0:27.9	and so we've got to grapple not only with the whitening of Jesus in terms of visually but the
0:35.6	domesticating of Jesus and the colonizing of Jesus so that he's been
0:39.4	tied to projects of social dominance and oppression for so long.
0:44.3	And so, yeah, the church is deeply in bed with this, and it's not until we look and
0:48.9	peer deeply at what has happened, take a look in the mirror.
0:53.2	It's not until we really do that seriously that
0:54.9	we're going to be able to kind of disentangle all the mess that has nothing to do with Jesus.
1:00.9	It has nothing to do with the way, the good news, and the reign of God on earth.
1:05.3	Until we do that work, we're going to continue to try to be a part of the solution and continue
1:10.6	to perpetuate the problem as well. And so we've got to get a try to be a part of the solution and continue to perpetuate the
1:11.6	problem as well. And so we've got to get a better sense of Christian history, I think, if we're
1:16.2	going to move forward in any kind of meaningful way.
1:22.8	I am cold. I am cold and bleakly.
1:28.7	Welcome to the Deconstructionist podcast.
1:31.0	I'm your host, John Williamson.
1:33.3	Welcome back.
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