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All right.

Welcome to this week's episode of the Massonomics podcast.

I am your host, Tyler.

There is nobody else with me right now.

This is going to be a, the last, let me look at how many there are. Last of our interviews from the Arnold.

What do we have?

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, nine, nine or ten.

So we're going to open up right away.

We met with Bill Casmeyer again.

If you remember our interview last year, anytime we talk with Bill, it's super interesting.

And, and, but, but it was pretty cool here in the way that he talks about things.

Like, when you listen to the way he talks about Half Thor B. Ornson, he doesn't, most people

just be like, he's awesome, he's big.

And Bill goes into this, like, huge rants,

and it's so fucking awesome the way that he describes everybody.

You know, he's like, you know, there's one man's going to walk down through the valley,

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