This is trend following radio where great thinking comes alive.

Nobel Prize winners, legendary traders, bestselling authors, and the pros that know what drive us irrational human beings.

I am your host, Michael Covel, not filtered, raw, honest.

That's my passion.

Post Thanksgiving, post Black Friday, post-Cyber Monday,

let me share with you a little interview that I did recently.

Actually, an interview of me by Dan Ferris of Stansberry.

No big setup, no big delay.

Let's jump right in.

I hope you enjoy.

Thank you. jump right in. I hope you enjoy. All right. It's time for our interview. Today's guest is Michael Covel of Trend Following.com.

Covel is the author of five, count them five books,

including the international bestseller trend following and his investigative narrative turtle

trader. Covel posts on Twitter, publishes his blog, and records a podcast weekly. His clients

are in 70 plus countries, and he splits his time across USA and Asia.

Michael also admires the fountainhead by Einrand, collects dinosaur skulls, took a constitutional

case before the Virginia Supreme Court, likes the Anthony Bourdain travel life, can still swing a bat with authority,

and once ran for political office. Renaissance man, Michael Covel, welcome back to the show.

Thanks, Dan. Appreciate it. You're a busy guy. I am, and I'm just coming out a jet lag coming from

Asia for the last 2.5 years to the states. I'm getting my sea legs under me.

Yeah, I'll tell you, when you fly back and forth across the country, it's one thing. But, you know,

you come from Asia and you can have a real problem. I'm raising my hand right now and saying,

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