Hey folks, welcome to the Adventure Sports Podcast.

I'm your host, Mason.

Today we're talking to Jerome Rand.

You probably recognize him.

He's one of the, probably like the first person that's been on the show four times, like new episodes.

And what's cool

is three of those interviews, including today, was in person. Pretty rare that I get to do an

in-person interview. It's a huge treat because it's a totally different dynamic. And Jerome and I

have become friends. Well, I mean, I call him a friend. I don't know if he'd call me a friend. I'm just

kidding. I know he would. But every time he comes to town, which is like once a year, he's just

passing through for something. We get together and do an interview in the studio. And this one was

awesome. We didn't have a ton of time. We made it happen. And we're going to talk about

the experience of an adventure or someone who knows a lot about something and is like, okay, do I

just keep doing this thing? Or do I start to use this experience to help the next generation

of enthusiasts of adventures or the youth? you know, there's, you know,

the need to leave a legacy. And so Jerome's going through that. And he just had a new experience.

If you don't know, he owns and has operated his sailboat for years and done some massive adventures,

which include sailing around the world, literally around the entire world, unsupported.

He's attempted a northwest passage crossing, crossing the Atlantic and up and down the coast of the U.S. many, many times. He's done so much sailing.

And a lot of other things like through hiking the Appalachian Trail. So he's got these chops and

this amazing understanding of the ocean. You can really hear him. When he talks about it,

just like, wow, this guy reads the ocean like a book. I'm amazed by people that can do that. And so you might not be

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