So is it possible for a Catholic to be saved? Are you saying

everybody that claims to be a Catholic is not saved? How do we answer that?

Right, did you guys have television in New Zealand in the 1980s?

Yes, we used to wish shoes. I mean, I've had people ask stuff like that. Did you guys have cars

in Lebanon? Yeah, you do. And camels. I mean, did you combine stereo touches?

Ray, what were some of the TV shows you watched as a kid? Oh, they were absolutely pathetic.

I, you know, you go back and think, I just love to get smart with Maxwell. That was the best.

Go back and watch it as absolutely a horn. Really is. It's just not funny now. And even the

Flintstones, we used to love watching and things have really changed. But yeah, stuff like that,

we don't watch Flintstones when you were a kid. Yeah, Flint's. Oh, yes. It's about 60

years old. What was your guys' favorite shows as kids? Mark, you go first. Oh, boy, I wasn't a Christian.

cartoons. I loved Jeopardy-jaw, Josephine Pussycats. Could we do Flintstones, Jetsons, all those

smurfs on Saturday morning? When I think of Saturday mornings, I get a certain feeling.

You know, that was you'd wake up in the morning and watch cartoons. You know, they had the best

ones on. Did you stop now? Oh, wow. Just on Monday, two days, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays.

Remember the story of Rachel in New Zealand? She was watching a show. I think the young doctors

or something. Oh, yeah, she collapsed. She was so into it. A lady fell down an elevator. She

wasn't a lady. It was the top nurse. Was it? Oh, no, it's more or something like that. Excuse me,

the top nurse. Yeah, she fell down an elevator, chef. And she was standing. She was about eight,

nine years old, watching the TV and she collapsed. She totally collapsed. She was so into it. She

thought it was really and just collapsed. Yeah. You know, I loved like the A team was one of my

apps. Oh, yeah, it was fun. In fact, for eight, we all get into the details, but you were

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