Yes, yes, welcome in to another edition of the Tim McKernan show on the Inside

STL Podcast network from the Home Loan Expert.com Studios.

This week's guest presented by Mark Hanna of Evergreen Wealth Strategies is Ryan Kelly.

Now, I feel like I got to jump in here because I want to have Ryan Kelly on because Ryan and I have talked about his story from

I don't know if from rags to riches wouldn't be a fair way to portray it I

don't think Ryan would call it that, but how he built his business.

And so I understand, I'm cutting this off at the past, I understand that somebody might listen to this go oh you're having a sponsor on and then organically

conducting some marketing

by portraying it as an interview.

So I want to make this crystal clear.

This was my idea and Ryan a couple of times said,

you know, you must be getting hard up for guests, you know, something self-deprecating like yeah I know I appreciate it but I don't really I said honestly because when Ryan and I have been hanging out and you know just will be BSing and then he starts telling me you know what what he did in order to get where he is

It's an entrepreneurial story that I find not only to be incredibly entertaining, inspiring for future

entrepreneurs or people considering it right now, but also tells the tale of anybody who's ever started a business, I would imagine of all of the

hits and misses, the near hits, the near misses, the importance of timing.

And then really, even though it's telling a story,

in telling the story, you hear all kinds of lessons,

whether it be business lessons,

entrepreneurial lessons, or life lessons.

And so I knew that it would make for an entertaining interview.

So I want to make that clear.

Now you can say, well, I don't believe you and that's fine

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