And the All right, so hello everyone and welcome back to the next episode of the Disclosure

Podcast. I am your host Ed and this is a really exciting

podcast that's been a long time in the making literally like weeks and weeks of

planning but due to my slightly disorganized attempts at emailing.

We couldn't get to it until now, but here we are.

And so I'm really excited to say that Joanne MacArthur

is here on the podcast today.

And before we get into the actual bulk of what we're going to talk about just

give you a little overview with some of the amazing work that Joe has done so

Joe is an award-winning photographer offer and sought after speaker.

Through her long-term body of work, We Animals, she has been documenting our complex relationship with animals around the globe.

Since 1998, her work has taken it to almost 60 countries and in 2019, she founded We Animals Media.

MacRfe's first book, We Animals, was published in 2014 by Lanten Books.

Her second book, Captive, was published by Lanten Books in 2017.

And something I'm looking forward to hopefully talking about on the podcast is the 2013 documentary,

The Ghosts in Our Machine, which was directed by Liz Marshall and followed Joanne MacArthur as she went around documenting the plight of abused and exploited animals.

And that interesting was one of the first animal rights documentaries that I ever watched and it affected me very profoundly.

MacArthur's photography and writing has been in publications such as the National Geographic,

the National Geographic traveler, the Washington Post, the Guardian Vice,

LA Times, Huffington Post, you get the picture. It's been widely

broadcasted, widely shown around, widely published due to the incredibly impactful nature of the work.

And not only has it been published in many publications,

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