I love how when we had on this episode is everyone's going to discover we did the clap and

Dr. Joe was just like, I don't know what you guys are doing. Like I don't know if this is a cult.

But yeah, we went everywhere and anywhere.

He's an independent man. He's a progenitor. He's an originator.

That innovator. He's not just going to clap without any kind of understanding

what we're doing. Well, Eric, that actually best exemplifies the way that he thinks is that we,

you just said, we're going to clap and everyone else just, you know, monkey see monkey do. Like,

yeah, we'll clap with you guys. And he was just like, I'm going to observe this and see what

happens because he's thinking in his head, best practices.

I need to understand why we're clapping before I clap.

And then he's like, oh, you're clapping to signal to Brandon, you're a wonderful audio guy,

that that's where the recording starts.

And he's like, well, we're on the same track.

I don't need to clap.

He's so smart.

Yeah, he's three steps ahead of us, especially when we got talking, which is interesting that we found out his views in terms of the best form of governance.

We talked about totalitarianism.

Just interesting things.

Like people think they're coming here for this episode to learn about the OG OG.

You're going to throw some hip hop terms at me, Eric, but you said it's very important from the

hip-hop community where you pay respect to those that came before you.

For those listening that are interested in bodybuilding, interested in things like a peak

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