EP:1 - "Everyone starts as a 3-Year old." How ordinary people become capable of atrocities.

Provoked with Darryl Cooper and Scott Horton

Scott Horton

News, History, Politics

4.7 • 567 Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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The premiere episode of "Provoked" features Scott Horton and Darryl Cooper exploring the psychology of conflict and how ordinary people become participants in cycles of violence. Cooper, host of Martyr Made and former Department of Defense engineer, draws from his extensive experience working in Israel and deep historical research to unpack the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Cooper shares the remarkable journey behind his acclaimed "Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem" series, where he read hundreds of books and thousands of documents to understand a conflict most Americans only superficially comprehend. His commitment to humanizing both sides has resonated powerfully with listeners—including an IDF soldier who changed how he interacted with Palestinians after listening. What makes this conversation exceptional is Cooper's perspective on human psychology in conflict zones. Drawing from his observations during numerous visits to Israel between 2009-2019, he describes witnessing the growing siege mentality among Israelis and the transformation of their response protocols under Netanyahu's leadership. The discussion examines how prolonged conflict warps moral frameworks, allowing even humanitarian-minded people to advocate for increasingly extreme measures against perceived enemies. The conversation extends to the recent Iran-Israel conflict, with Cooper providing unique insights into what appears to have been a regime change operation that lacked a viable backup plan. His analysis suggests both sides learned valuable lessons about each other's capabilities which might actually reduce future conflict escalation—a rare sliver of hope in an otherwise concerning regional dynamic. Join Scott and Darryl each week as they tackle complex global conflicts with nuance, historical context, and psychological insight you won't find in mainstream coverage. Subscribe now and discover why understanding the humanity behind conflicts might be our best hope for ultimately resolving them. (Cleaned up w/ the Podsworth app and re-released November 20, 2025. ⁠https://podsworth.com⁠) 👉 Subscribe for more honest, unfiltered conversations that push past the noise. 🔹 No safe spaces. 🔹 No corporate filters. 🔹 Just raw, informed, and fearless conversation. Provoked show website: ⁠https://provoked.show⁠ Darryl's links: X: ⁠@martyrmade⁠ ⁠https://subscribe.martyrmade.com⁠ Scott's links: X: ⁠@scotthortonshow⁠ ⁠https://scotthortonacademy.com⁠ ⁠https://libertarianinstitute.org⁠ ⁠https://antiwar.com⁠ ⁠https://scotthorton.org⁠ ⁠https://scotthorton.org/books⁠ ⁠https://www.scotthortonshow.com⁠ 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 ⁠https://streamyard.com/pal/d/4904399580430336 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:38.2	Thank you. All right, y'all, welcome to Provoked with me, Scott Horton, and my good friend and co-host, Daryl Cooper.
1:39.0	How you doing, Daryl?
1:41.1	Doing great, man.
1:42.2	This is going to be fun.
1:44.1	I'm dressed to the nines thematically. I got my
1:45.3	Pentagon sweatshirt that you can only get from the gym inside the Pentagon, so I'm ready to go.
1:51.0	Very nice. You got to keep the top of the, you know. Yes, I'll be representing the forces of
1:56.1	freedom, and you'll be representing the military. The best start, yeah. Okay.
2:01.8	No, happy to do this.
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