Hello and welcome to the Modern Maker Podcast. Today is Thursday, July 5th, 2018, otherwise known as Workaholics Day.

So I know normally we do kind of like goofy things but actually when I read that I've thought

are we workaholics like would you guys consider yourself workaholics?

Functional workaholic. Highly functioning. I think that term is kind of doesn't apply. I think I

think you're a workaholic when it's at the detriment of other aspects of your life and it's bringing you down.

In my case, like I find work to be, in many cases, the thing that sort of strengthens

other aspects of my life.

When I haven't been as invested in my sort of day-to-day work,

I feel like I party more and more focused on sort of social

or sort of self-indulgent pursuits. And for me, like sort of self-indulgent pursuits and for me like sort of when I'm really

invested or excited intellectually in my in my work both in the day-to-day operations, but also into how I'm sort of making strategic moves to build the businesses,

I find that that often brings out the best in myself.

Yeah, I think that I would say that I do work a lot, but I don't feel like I'm addicted to work or I guess

work a hall as it would be.

If anything, it would just be that when I feel like when I'm not

working toward something or like making progress in some way then I feel kind of guilty

so I don't know if that would yeah yeah that's kind of how I

I think of myself you're having withdrawals from work yes I'm shaking I can't sell my

hands from shaking I'm pretty similar to you guys I think like probably most people similar to us just suffer from like over scheduling and overbooking to where if there's other things that come up then it's like oh crap I can't do this because I have this obligation and that that I have to fulfill.

But other than that, like, as long as you enjoy what you do, then you're still going to work,

but you're going to enjoy it a lot more than if you, you know, if you're doing something you hate if you guys had to guess how many hours do you

think you average per day of work 10 to 12 yeah I think that's pretty for if I had to guess I would say like yeah probably about

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