Hey folks, Randy Newberg here with another episode of LooPold's Hunt Talk radio.

Today I am at the Total Archery Challenge in Big Sky Montana.

You're going to hear some background noise because there's wind, there's people walking around,

there's a band playing down at the center down there. So I apologize in advance if this isn't

a perfectly clear podcast, but I really appreciate you joining us. Today I have a guest,

he's been on the podcast before, but I wanted to talk to him now because he's been doing some

cool stuff that is really into public land advocacy and sticking his neck way out there.

And I'm interested to hear what his response or what the response has been to him sticking his neck

out there. This is Brian Call from The Gritty Bowman. And I guess an advanced warning on this

podcast, it is one of these podcasts that probably reflect the subtitle of our show called

Randy Newberg unfiltered. This is going to be very heavy into politics, very heavy into policy.

And I hope when we're all done that people understand the point I'm trying to make and have been

trying to make is that in the long run, this whole idea of politicizing public lands and

access and hunting and conservation, it's something new in the last 10 to 12 years. It used to be

a non-political issue, both sides used to join in and it was easy to get stuff done, but that's

changed like much has changed in our world. And this is Randy Newberg's theory. You'll hear

the details of why I have this theory, but my theory is that until we make this

painful enough, and what I mean when I say this, until the attacks on public land and conservation

and access become painful enough to certain groups that they're not going to change their behavior.

And I know some people are going to hear my thoughts on it and they're going to say Newberg,

you've lost your mind and that's fine. I'm a very, if you measured me on the political spectrum

of America, I'd definitely be right to center. And the beauty is I have no zero, absolutely no

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