Welcome, everyone, to episode 83 of Underserved. Joining me today is Rachel Cosser, CEO and co-founder of Virtual Sapiens. Let's get started.

Welcome to this week's edition of Underserved, the podcast for the rest of the tech industry.

Where we focus on stories of tech industry leaders, their insights, and their lessons learned.

And now, your host, Andrew Jalina.

Rachel, thank you so much for joining us today on Underserved.

Thank you, Andrew, for having me. It is an honor to be here.

So, way back in the day, instead of, like, locking yourself in the cellar and pounding out basic code,

you're actually a rhythmic gymnast in your teens?

That's right. Yeah, leading all the way through my teens from the age of about five,

I was stretching aggressively instead of pounding away on a keyboard.

Now, what is rhythmic gymnastics? I looked on Wikipedia and, like, you do a floor routine,

and there's, like, an apparatus. Like, how does that work?

Yes. So, you actually hit on one of the core differentiators between rhythmic gymnastics,

which is what I did, and artistic gymnastics, which is with the flips and the uneven parallel bars and the beam.

And as much as I hate to admit this, rhythmic gymnastics is the lesser known of the two,

but it involves apparatus like ribbon and ball and hoops and ropes, and you throw things.

You do all kinds of crazy stuff underneath, and then you catch stuff with your legs,

and it's very entertaining, almost across between ballet and circus arts.

Okay. So, what was the apparatus that you like to work with?

I loved working with the ball. Every apparatus has a specialty,

and the specialty with the ball was flexibility.

And so, I tended to be able to unlock pretty high scores because I could do some high level flexibility moves,

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