You're going to. Hey everybody and welcome to the Modern Maker podcast not sure what episode number this is but this week I have the pleasure of interviewing my co-host

vinueda. What's going on brother?

Not much, just hanging out at my parents house here just a little bit north of

Santa Barbara and enjoying doing these in-person interviews.

I know.

If you didn't, if you missed last weekend's episode,

we just got done recording that, and that was kind of Ben interviewing me,

so this time we switched it up, we put him in the hot seat.

Yes also the seat that occasionally makes farty noises.

Yeah so he doesn't fart. They're not all farts. Let you say that. They're not all farts. Let's you say that. They're not all farts. None of them are. Okay, cool. So one thing we talked about with me was just kind of one of the topics was starting like what

did people think what were what were your aspirations going into it and

basically why did you start what you did and I think we come from it at

totally different angles.

Yeah.

Not necessarily like why we did it or motives behind it, but just the situation we were in and

the surrounding situation. So I come at it from I was in school,

didn't really have a job and I knew that what I was going to school for wasn't

what I wanted my job to be. You come it, come from it, having, I mean, started successful businesses,

sold a tech company, made really good money.

So you're going from, you know, just take it from there.

Yeah, so I think there's a lot of ways to sort of figure something out.

I think you can figure out by what you want to do, and I think you can figure out by what you don't want to do.

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