Hey everybody, Mike here. I just wanted to make this really quick announcement apologizing for the less than perfect audio.

We did have a couple of technical difficulties in the recording, but it still came out to be a cool interview that we wanted to share.

I'm not gonna lie though though it wasn't a little bit

different kind of reversing the roles and being the one interviewed. I don't know what it

was but for the first five minutes or so I was kind of feeling the nerves

talking a little shaky but once everything settled in it became a

really cool show so I hope you guys enjoy this episode let's get it started.

Hello and welcome to one of our weekend editions of the Modern Maker

podcast and for the first time we're doing it in person yes which is awesome and

on video and on video so for this episode we thought we do something a little bit different and we'd actually interview each other one on one now originally we thought it was going to be all three of us in one place but unfortunately Chris got sick with the flu. So Chris you

hope we get better even though you'll probably will be by the time this airs.

So we thought we'd take turns interviewing each other and I'm going first and just going to ask Mike here a little few questions that I've always been wondering about his career a little bit how we got started and we figure since we had a different format we could probably get a little bit different types of information out of each other

so I think so not to mention being in person kind of lends itself to that maybe exactly

and well and also to drinking we are slightly hung over so we're also to drinking. We are slightly hung over so, but we're powering through.

Yeah. And real quick, I'm going to plug. Obviously, if you're watching the video, you're already doing that. But if you're on the podcast app like I mentioned this is the first

time we're recording video so if you want to head over to the Modern Maker

podcast YouTube channel and check that out go do that and if you're watching

this awesome yeah give it a like let you two know it's good all

so let's get start so one of the first questions that I had is what are your

like high school classmates and sort of college classmates think of what you're doing right now?

It was kind of funny.

Until you're successful at something, everyone wants to make fun of you for it in a way right and I'm sure you experience that too being from like a professional architect right to

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