Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Under-Serve, the podcast for the rest of

the tech industry.

I'm your host Andrew Gelina.

Joining me today is Vessa Tormanin, VP of Product Management and Engineering at Nerala.

Vessa, welcome to the show.

Thank you and nice to be here and hello to everybody listening.

So you originally grew up in Finland with your parents working for a government pension

fund computing center.

What was that like?

It was like Star Trek, except maybe it was too small to watch Star Trek at the time.

But yeah, my father was working often weekends and stuff and I was taken along to the computing

center with large IBM mainframes that were computing how much its finished person needed

to get paid pension.

Yeah, it left an impression and then in primary school, high school and thinking about career

options I never really considered anything other than computer science.

Of course then later on also personal computers and computers that you could afford to

have in your home became a thing.

So that's just enforced my decision to work with computers.

Of course now it's very disappointing because they are so small.

You don't have this football field-sized air condition like humming thing anymore.

It's just a small little thing in the corner or maybe not even that.

I've heard that the pensions are now done with cloud computing so big computer centers.

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