Hello and welcome to this week's edition of Under Serv, the podcast for the rest of the tech industry. I'm your host Andrew

Jelina. Our guest this week is Ken Pickering, CTO of Hopper. Ken, welcome to the

show. Hey, thanks for having me, Andrew. This is great. So we lucked out with some good weather this winter to get you in.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's mysteriously good weather.

I always get nervous when it's like late January and we haven't had too many major snowstorms

because then it's like well what's going to

happen to February? You know it's coming. So Ken, you know most folks I haven't

underserved have a pretty interesting story about what cut them excited about

technology way back in the day. What was it for you?

My mind could probably tell you this story as well, but when I was like five, I took apart my record player

because I was so intrigued by the concept of like a box that you put a disc on and a needle like

replicating sound. So I took it apart and I looked at the pieces and I was able, I was definitely

unable to get it back together again.

But that's always been something that drives me

is like understanding how things work,

like not being content with just like,

well, it's a box that plays music.

My parents had a TI computer that's hooked up to a television. You know, I had like these big

cartridges you would put into it. It's like, and so I'd play some games on that and they had like

learning programs and stuff, but they had TI BAS basic book for it.

So when you'd boot it up without a disk,

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