Okay everyone, thanks for joining us. This is the meat eater podcast we're recording

out of Scottsdale. So not quite. In the background you might hear if you're lucky, a dog

bang or barking, that's a lion hunt dog owned by Floyd Green who owns and operates outdoorsmins

and wilderness athlete and then you guys are like, you guys consider yourself business partners.

Yeah. I don't think the whole world, you guys whole world is like convoluted to me, but

also a process to us. Chris Denham of Western Hunter, infamy from Western Hunter television

show, Western Hunter and Elec Hunter magazines, managing editor. What, yeah. Change the titles?

You know, publisher, Floyd Night do actually we trade, we're co-publishers. Is that right?

Of way, I'm Western Hunter, no company.

There is a rich.

Yeah. Oh really? We chance to these guys, these two guys are involved, like, and I don't

pretend to understand where one thing lets up and where one thing ends and other thing begins,

these guys are very involved in a handful of brands and companies and lifestyle things

that I'm interested in as a wilderness athlete, outdoorsmins, like wilderness athletes like

performance, enhancing, performance, enhancing products, outdoorsmins, optics is how you get

into that, right?

Right, very optics.

Optics, backpack systems, accessories and stuff. You started on the optics business?

Well, I'm starting out in the gun business.

Oh really? That's what outdoorsmins begins, guns.

Right.

An ATF should maybe realize that it probably could have a second occupation.

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