Okay, so this intro is going to be short. We've listened to our patrons on Patreon and we have

listened to the folks on our social media and people that we've encountered in person and they have

said 15 minute intros are not sweet.

Well it's kind of funny because I remember,

I was like, dude, I think our intros are too long.

And then it was like, I edited last week's intro

and I submitted a 15 minute intro to you so I kind of

and then I got it follow my own advice I think I cut it down to maybe closer to

closer to 14 or like barely above 15.

Yeah, yeah, you cut a couple of those arms.

Yeah, so yeah, no, but let's let's keep it shorter right?

Yeah, yeah.

Get right to the good shit. The idea of these being long is to explain how our Patreon is helping us produce these.

And so, I guess to cut all that short, if you'd like to support us go to

www.patreon.com forward slash crude magazine and shout out to our first and only company man right now

Trina Dober. Yeah Trina. All right so Michael Downey that's that's who we're

about to interview or have a conversation with.

Or who he did have a conversation.

Yeah.

And so you know I'm from high school, correct?

I do, yeah, we went to high school together.

All right, so real quick, what was Downey like in high school? He is an absolute character. He could, it would not surprise me in the least bit if in the next couple months, in the next year, the next two years whenever it comes out that he's

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