Hey, welcome back to the Personality Hacker Podcast. My name is Joel Mark Witt.

And I'm Antonia Dodge.

Today we're continuing our series where we do a deep dive into each of the 16 Myers Briggs personality types and this week we're talking

about the E NTJ personality in the Myers Briggs system or the effectiveness perspectives personality in the personality hacker system.

Right, and I'm gonna I'm gonna be radically honest here.

I'm a little scared about this podcast.

But probably not as scared as you are as E&TP, right?

Yeah, oh, yeah, that's coming up. That's next week.

That's your type.

And I'll tell you why I'm scared.

My older brother is an E&J, or that's his best fit type and then I grew up with my best friend being an E&TJ and whenever I think about E&TJ's even though I've had quite a few in my life

These are the people who just stand out so loud to me, in particular my

older brother.

And so it's really difficult for me to extrapolate what's common to EMTTJ's without superimposing my brother over this image of E&TJ's.

So what I'm going to I'm going to try really hard to not talk about my brother when I'm talking about this type.

It's tough to get to know the real them.

There are a lot of layers there,

a lot of layers that maybe aren't obvious from the outside,

they might feel kind of... and I think that a lot of

people tend to paint them this way and maybe even we have a tendency to paint them

this way as a bit two-dimensional we talk about how they're like CEOs of companies or Napoleon, Napoleon, not dynamite, Napoleon Bonaparte, not Napoleon dynamite, but this sort of a Napoleon Bonaparte's military leader, five-star general, you know, running companies, running countries. And that, I don't think that does them justice. I mean, there is a component to them that is understandably archetypical going that

direction but I don't think that that does them justice because I think that there's

...